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Please ask for permission before using this interview for purposes other than sharing on social media.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2021-03-16 (created)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOn March 16th 2021, The Patch Works had the honor of interviewing Ivan Sellers, who was born and raised in Cabbagetown until he was around 16 years old, when his parents moved out of the neighborhood. Please click on the video above to hear his story… told in his own words.\u003c/p\u003e"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOn March 16th 2021, The Patch Works had the honor of interviewing Ivan Sellers, who was born and raised in Cabbagetown until he was around 16 years old, when his parents moved out of the neighborhood. Please click on the video above to hear his story\u0026hellip; told in his own words.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; 2021, All Rights Reserved. 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This is wonderful to meet you and again, you know I'm hoping that everybody here gets to kind of participate if y'all want. If, uh, you have questions that you've always wanted to ask [LAUGHS] now's a good time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=4.0,25.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Well glad to be here and glad to do the interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=25.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=28.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Good to see Cabbagetown again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=29.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: If you could please tell us your name, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=30.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: My name is Ivan Sellers, and I was born in Atlanta, 1940, Grady Hospital, and, uh, my family raised me [PAUSE] mostly in Cabbagetown, up until maybe I was in the seventh grade, eight grade. And I remember I have a lot of good memories of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=34.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: First house I remember living on was in Tye Street, from Tye Street. Like a three story house but then we lived down the walk down to-to the bottom of it. And...and...I think two families lived above us and then we lived...on Estoria Street...by the block up from where we are right now and-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=55.0,80.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: At that time...there were the-the restaurants up nearly-nearly every four blocks in Cabbagetown. There was...a ma-and-pa grocery store, about every two three blocks and, uh, it was a very nice place to live and a very safe place to be raised.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=80.0,101.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: And went to...Grant Park grammar school, went up to the first grade. And I also went to, um, Inman Park [PAUSE] school when I was in the seventh grade. After that, we had moved but...I remember riding the street car that came into Cabbagetown. It came down...end of Estoria Street and went up, it went up down Memorial Drive and, um, I remember that. 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I can remember, I was so young but I can remember how nice it was and how pleasant it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=133.0,168.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: And so I have a lot of good memories of Cabbagetown. And I remember in 1948, me and the-the boys would, uhm, the Lone Ranger would come on T.V. and [PAUSE] one family had a T.V. up at the end of, uh, the name of this road up here, can't think of the name of it. Runs up and down-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=168.0,187.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Wylie? Or Kirkwood?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=187.0,189.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Kirkwood, Kirkwood Road. Yeah, and they had the house at the end and we'd have about, uh, ten or fifteen boys with tennis shoes on all sitting in there. And the T.V.s in Atlanta didn't come on then until two o'clock in the afternoon. And we would sit there until- wait til two o'clock and all the sudden, you'd hear the Lone Ranger theme come on T.V. and we would all watch [PAUSE] that and it was a very nice place to live.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=189.0,215.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: I hear that a lot. I mean, I-I, to a person, they talk about [PAUSE] what a wonderful life it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=215.0,222.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yes. It was a wonderful place, very safe place [PAUSE] families were very nice. Uh, deeply imbedded my memory, how nice it was. 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Everyone except for you-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=363.0,365.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Oh yeah, she'da told you that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=365.0,367.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: - all other eleven.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=367.0,368.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: I was the only one born in the hospital. And we lived on Tye Street then, I think. I'm almost sure. But the nurse from the Grady came out and got- my mother and took her to the hospital because she had, uh, something wrong with her called eclampsia. What women get that makes their body retain water and makes them have a hard time having a baby.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=368.0,398.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: And my daddy, the minister, he delivered the other ten children, so I hear, on the dining- on the kitchen table himself. 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I'm the only one left now, I'm eighty years old and they've all gone on before me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=418.0,433.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: I was the, uh, next to the baby, I was a baby boy born in 1940. I had a sister born in '43. And my dad delivered her. So that's the way, I guess they lived like that. And they came down from the mountains of Dahlonega. I guess- I guess they were the Irish [?] from the British Isles, you know, that settled there years ago and they came down to Atlanta to live. 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Yep, Cherokee County, yep. Yeah, they were all- I guess, you'd call them Scottish, Irish mountain people. [PAUSE] Not that Cabbagetown was mostly made up of- so I read an article, at one time, they were talking about Cabbagetown, it was made up of mostly British Isle, Scottish, English, Welsh people that moved to the mountains when the US was settled and then a lot of them moved to Cabbagetown.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=501.0,532.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah, that's what I heard too, is that especially after the Civil War, the industry started to pick up here. 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Steady job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=544.0,546.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Right, that's what I understood too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=546.0,549.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: And your mom worked at the cotton mill?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=549.0,553.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah, my mom worked at the cotton mill. Yeah, yeah. My daddy [PAUSE] at one time worked at Bell Bomber. They called it Bell Bomber back then. Lockheed, it was called Bell Bomber during the war. Yeah, he worked during the war at Bell- he called it Bell Bomber, they made bombers. And it was called- instead of Lockheed, it was called Bell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=553.0,572.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: But where was that located?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=572.0,574.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: It's Lockheed in Marietta. Yeah. Lockheed down in [??]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=574.0,577.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: So it's the same- it's the same factories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=577.0,580.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: And while he did that, then she worked at the Fulton Bag Cotton Mill during the war and, um, while we lived here. And then he would preach on the Berean church on Sundays, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=580.0,595.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: That little shotgun style church-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=595.0,597.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: That little shotgun, itty bitty [PAUSE] smaller than a one-room church. But it was always full. 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People singing, playing the guitar, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=613.0,619.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Well, one thing I've learned is that music was all over the place here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=619.0,624.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah, it's all over the place. Yeah. Never goes away, does it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=624.0,628.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Still going strong...did you get to play any music?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=628.0,631.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: I didn't play any music, no. No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=631.0,634.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Just..a preach [??]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=634.0,635.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: I had a- I had a brother and sister that did though. I had a sister, Mildred, she had her own radio show at one time in the '47, '48 and then she moved- she got married and moved away. But she was pretty good with a guitar and singing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=635.0,654.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: So I- I also hear you, uh, worked nearby for a little while.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=654.0,659.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: I worked where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=659.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Near-nearby...you'd- you would ride your bicycle there? Is that right? To work or-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=660.0,665.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: You told me you worked at that Colonial...Bakery..","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=665.0,668.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Oh, Colonial Bakery. Oh, yes I did. I had a job at Colonial Bakery on ... Avenue and I used to walk home at night. I'd get off like two in the morning... and I'd walk home at night down the railroad, didn't have a car, down the railroad tracks by myself. [LAUGHS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=668.0,687.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Have you been by there recently?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=687.0,689.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Well, I carry a baseball bat with me. 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I went to Kirkwood, we moved to Kirkwood when we moved to- from Cabbagetown, on Rogers Street. And that's where I worked at, uh, Colonial Bakery. So I would walk from Colonial Bakery down to Kirkwood on the railroad tracks, at night. 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So we had a choice between two theaters in the community. And it was a good place to go, Grant Park was very nice. We would go, you asked if we had played ball and all that, we would all go to Grant Park and go swimming, in the Grant Park swimming pool. And they had cyclorama, of course, and around the cyclorama they had boats where you could get in and take boat rides. You know, paddle around the lake.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=732.0,772.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: So we had everything, Grant Park- Grant Park, Cabbagetown, Kirkwood, Memorial Drive. I remember Easter in Cabbagetown. Everybody would dress up and play music. It was- it was a nice place to live.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=772.0,793.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah, there's still a really strong sense of community here that I think was established by families like yours who first arrived. 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And my daddy got a sawmill and went in the sawmill business- which south Fulton count back then, back towards the Chattahoochee river and Newnan, was very rural. And we all moved down there for a while. Before-before they moved back to Atlanta which was in later years. But I also grew up down in south Fulton county at, uh, Rico, Rico, Georgia. Which is right on the river down there and across the river on other sides is Carrollton and Newnan in that area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=849.0,896.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Have you had a chance to drive around the neighborhood yet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=896.0,899.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: I did, yeah, yeah. That was a good place, I have good memories of the country down there too. That was a good place to grow up too, then we moved back to Atlanta. We moved to Lakewood Heights. And at that time, Lakewood- when the General Motors plant was open, that was a good place to live also. You know, at Christmas time, they would light up all the streets with lights all over the streets and it was a good place to live at South Bend Park. It was a great place to live with Fulton High, good place to live.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=899.0,932.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Did you ever take, uh, because what I understand is the mill would offer certain types of services, like you said you were in the nursery for a little while, daycare, did you know of anybody who got education there? 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Elementary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=960.0,964.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: Did anyone else in our family work in the mill? Besides Grandmother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=964.0,967.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah, I had a brother that worked at the mill, AC. Yeah, he worked there for- he worked there a long time and he also lived on Tye Street. And he also had a radio repair shop at his home on Tye Street. Yeah, yeah, he died early too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=967.0,988.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: So not everybody and I think this is one of those myths that, you know, we try to dispel a little bit, is that everybody who lived here at Cabbagetown worked at the mill. 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He lived over on Walker Street over in East Atlanta, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1003.0,1024.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Ok, that's cool. Um, do y'all have any questions right now or do you want to say anything?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1024.0,1030.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN[?]: I mean, I don't have any yet. I'm just listening so..","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1030.0,1034.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah, I mean, these are great stories. Um, yeah, like if you said that your parents lived for a little while in that yellow brick house on Berean? Is that right? The yellow brick house in Berean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1034.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Oh, Berean. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1050.0,1052.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah. And I-I know that y'all have seen it and what's happened to it. 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It's supposed to have been renovated but this is not an uncommon issue right now. The current owner I guess just decided, you know, they come and they get approved. And then they do whatever they want to do after they get the approval. And was it a single family home at one time or was it always a three plex? 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Well it wasn't called Carroll, it was born at that point and there was no boulevard. That came much later. But, yeah, the neighborhood, like John is very involved with this as well. You know, we're trying to find a balance between the past and where the country is going. And you know, the future.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1174.0,1201.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: And it's challenging...because you know we- this is such a unique place. We hear your stories and we know that this is not something that happens all over. 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Yeah, I think so. Probably so. Yeah, we had everything here. We had nice restaurants, matter of fact. Right down the road there, about maybe a block down from here was a real nice restaurant. I remember that. Next to the park, next to the new park they made, I used to play in the kudzu there and crawl and make tunnels through there. When I was young, when I was 6-7. So the park looks very nice, I wish we would have had a park like that when I grew up. Yeah, but it was a big kudzu field when I grew up.\r\n\r\n[00:21:33\r\nJACOB: I bet your mom loved it when you came home with ticks all over you. 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Yeah, it was a nice area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1325.0,1370.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: It sounds a lot more convenient back then than it is today. 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That's up and coming over there, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1380.0,1387.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Well, and your old bread factory is a big shopping area now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1387.0,1391.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1391.0,1393.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: Did y'all have a car or not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1393.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: A what?\r\n\r\nSUSAN: A car?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1394.0,1395.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yes, we had a car, yeah. Yes, yes. But mom always rode, uh, everyone back then rode the streetcar downtown and you did all your shopping downtown, yeah. We didn't have a big grocery store over here but they had a little ma-and-pa grocery store. Yeah, but I can remember riding a streetcar. I can't believe they got rid of them, they were so nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1395.0,1429.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: Yeah, when was that? When did they get rid of them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1429.0,1432.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: They got rid of them in '51. All over the United States, Westinghouse decided to talk to congressmen in Washington to get rid of all the streetcars and buy buses. And there have been some money on the table somewhere and that's why there's no streetcar in the United States. All the cities got rid of them except New Orleans and San Francisco-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1432.0,1455.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: And Boston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1455.0,1456.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: -and Boston. And Atlanta was one of them that got rid of them. I'm sure they made a lot of money, the politicians made a lot of money bringing in the streetcars and getting rid of buses. I mean, get rid of streetcars and getting the buses. That's- that's how we got rid of our streetcars. Yeah, I saw that on news one time. [LAUGHS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1456.0,1483.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: On your friend's place at Kirkwood, after the Lone Ranger was on? [PAUSE] Did you have any favorite musicians?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1483.0,1493.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Did I have what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1493.0,1494.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: Favorite musicians?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1494.0,1495.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Oh, back then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1495.0,1497.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1497.0,1499.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Uh, I like- I don't know, I like classical music myself back then but when my family liked country music. So there was a difference in us back then. But I liked all music back then. I didn't get into music until I was about nine or ten. But I liked classical, more or less, my family liked country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1499.0,1529.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: That's cause you were born in Grady. 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They grew up in the country, made a big difference I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1534.0,1539.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: What about when you went to California? 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I never got down on that main street over there. I don't know if I was afraid of it or had better sense than to go any farther but, uh, all those grills and places over there? I never went to none of those. I just stayed in my area over here around Tye Street and Estoria. Of course, I runned around by myself, I was a little kid so I was afraid to go too far. Probably I hardly ever got to Berean until we moved over there. But when we lived over here on Estoria, I hardly ever got past Berean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1664.0,1719.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: Yeah, they say, you know, until about the forties, most of the people who worked at the cotton mill were closer down there. 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I was so young, I didn't know a rough part. I didn't know that and I never heard of bad things going on. There might've been and I'm sure there are rough things everywhere but I never heard of anything bad going on. Could've been but I never heard anything bad going on while I lived in Cabbagetown. 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Yeah, we would go up on Memorial Drive a lot. Like I said- [UNINTELLIGIBLE] I swear I got my hair cut too up on Memorial Drive, there's a barber shop. 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Were there a lot of kids in the neighborhood?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=1989.0,1993.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah, yeah a lot- people had big families. You know, there was no way not to have big families back then. And so people just had big families, it just happened, you know? And everybody I knew had a lot of brothers and sisters. Today having two kids is a lot, you know? And people are not even having families today because they don't want to- it cost too much money to raise kids. A lot of them'd rather have all the amenities of life than have a child. 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Yeah, I do have a nephew. [UNINTELLIGIBLE] Yeah, there's one nephew still living here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2082.0,2090.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Is that Eddie?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2090.0,2091.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Eddie, yeah. Yeah. Eddie lives here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2091.0,2101.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah, he stuck around. He runs the blueprint store just on the other side of Memorial. Yeah, he runs his own store over there and I went in there once thinking it was a copy shop. You know, just to do copies? They let me do it and then afterwards they were like, don't do that again because that's not what we do. 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I'm sure they did, I'm sure they did have one. I used go to a lot of Crackers baseball games but uh I don't remember the Fulton Bag Cotton Mill baseball team. They'd be good with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2137.0,2156.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: They were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2156.0,2157.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2157.0,2159.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Because they would get all the ringers and put them all on the same team and pretend that they were mill workers. And they never set foot on the factory floor. It was common. In fact, one of the stories about how- like this is one of these big, you know, myths that go on right now. When you were living here, were you calling it Cabbagetown at that time or was there another name you would call this area?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2159.0,2186.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: I think we just called it Cabbagetown. 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Matter of fact, I went with a guy one time on the back of a truck selling watermelons one time around Atlanta, you know? I was a little kid, I don't think of payment or nothing, I just go. [LAUGHS] Man took three boys, climbed on the back of it. I think his name was, what was his name? Britcher, Bretcher. Last name, can't think of the first name. But everybody over back then, they had nice cars. They lived good lives. Everybody lived it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2232.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah, that's interesting because, you know, one of the things that we deal with now, we have such narrow streets here because at one point, cars weren't very, you know, everywhere. But it sounds like by the 40s, more people could afford cars?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2280.0,2304.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah. I remember my brothers had new cars. '48 Ford, I remember that. And this was in '46, '47. So evidently the mill must've paid pretty good, you know. I don't remember what my daddy drove, I don't remember that but I do remember, because I'm a car man myself. I remember that '47, '48 Ford coup my brother had. Parked up on the hill on Estoria Street behind those houses, there used to be a little field there, a little bank. Right before you get to Kirkland- Kirkwood. That's where we used to live and play. 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It was nice, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2359.0,2366.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah, back then, the mill would actually pay for garbage service.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2366.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Ok.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2370.0,2371.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: And a lot of the alleys here, they're designed so the trucks can get through the alleys to get the garbage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2371.0,2377.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah, they had- all the houses had alleys behind them where they had the garbage cans in the ground, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2377.0,2384.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Smart!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2384.0,2385.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: It was nice, nicer than it is today. [LAUGHS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2385.0,2389.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: You should've been here two years ago when we had the garbage debacle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2389.0,2395.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Oh, was it? Was it a big garbage- [UNINTELLIGIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2395.0,2396.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: The city started giving everybody arrest citations because of their garbage cans being on the sidewalks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2396.0,2402.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Ok.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2402.0,2403.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: It became Cabbagetown v. 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We're still kind of... separate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2407.0,2414.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: I remember those garbage cans.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2414.0,2418.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Were you going to ask something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2418.0,2420.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN'S DAUGHTER: Oh, I was just gonna ask how old were you when you got your first car?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2420.0,2424.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: When I got what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2424.0,2425.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN'S DAUGHTER: Your first car.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2425.0,2427.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Sixteen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2427.0,2428.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN'S DAUGHTER: Ok, wasn't sure if it was younger, that's why.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2428.0,2431.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah, I was sixteen. I was a big car trader. I used to buy cars, I used to work at the A\u0026P after high school, down on Georgia Avenue. Georgia and Washington Street, I'd make 35 dollars a week. And I could go Steward Avenue Auto Auction and get a car for 35 dollars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2431.0,2453.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: And I bought sixteen cars when I was sixteen and I had so many cars, the city of Atlanta made me get rid of them. Get them out of the yard, off the street. I'd trade them, I was a big car trader. 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There was a lot of bootlegging then. Yeah, I'm sure it still is today but uh, there was a lot of bootlegging. My daddy probably had a little trouble with that too in his day but we won't get into that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2511.0,2529.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: That's another story. 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Is that what you said?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2551.0,2553.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: The Kennedys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2553.0,2554.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Did you know that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2554.0,2555.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: That's how they made- they had big ships off the coast of Boston and New York bringing it in. That's what people made their money in the 30s and 40s. 20s, 30s, and 40s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2555.0,2570.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah, we-we still have people in the neighborhood participate in that art form, sure. 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She was a fighter. She died at 90. She worked right on up till she died I think. Just doing jobs, working with this company that made shirts and things I think. 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[LAUGHS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2695.0,2697.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN'S DAUGHTER(?): The bible marks all his family's births and everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2697.0,2701.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: He's the only one with a birth certificate that we know of. 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He said it's absurdly long.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2798.0,2802.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: I did go to, uh, Inman Park School over there one time, for like three months. The boy's special. I got- some boy, some boy in the grammar school broke a window out and they thought I did it and I didn't. He didn't own up to it and I took the blame for it and they sent me over there for three months. 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That three-story brick condo, four-story?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2824.0,2833.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2833.0,2834.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: That used to be a boy's special, that when you got in trouble in grammar school-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2834.0,2837.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: Just across the street from-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2837.0,2838.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: -they'd send you over there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2838.0,2839.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: See I didn't know that it was for troubled boys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2839.0,2842.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yes.\r\n\r\nJACOB: I mean, I knew it was a school but-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2842.0,2845.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Trouble boys. When you got in trouble, they'd ship you and whip you with a big board if you didn't toe the line.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2845.0,2855.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2855.0,2855.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: But I just went for three months. You know I don't like to- I'm not proud of it but uh..","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2855.0,2860.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: [LAUGHS] They'd ship you all the way over there to Edgewood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2860.0,2863.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah [LAUGHS] they did. It was just mean little boys. They wasn't bad boys, they just mean boys. They like getting fights and box and all that. If you got in a fight, they would- they had a rotunda out in the middle of the school and then tie your right foot to his left foot and put the boxing gloves on you and you'd have to box during lunchtime. 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But the little boys needed it, they were all mean boys. They wasn't good boys. I won't tell you, one time, what one of them did when the teacher went out the room. They went up with a closet and did something and come back in. They got it, they whipped that boy so bad. They were just mean little boys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2892.0,2926.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: [LAUGHS] So-\r\n\r\nIVAN: I'm surprised- I'm surprised to see you haven't about that school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2926.0,2932.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: You used the closet. 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To send you away for three months?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2945.0,2949.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN'S DAUGHTER: Yeah, you sure...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2949.0,2950.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Well, I'd already beat up another bully on the playground and uh-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2950.0,2956.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2956.0,2957.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: I don't think- I think the teacher didn't like me. And anyway- anyway they sent me there and I had to ride the bus all the way from Lakewood over to Inman Park. And yeah, then the coach, the eight grade coach at Fulton High, he got me to play football.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2957.0,2976.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: You were All-County, weren't you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2976.0,2988.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Huh?\r\n\r\nSUSAN: You were All-County for football?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=2988.0,6583.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah. So it's just another part of the story and it's so close to Cabbagetown, that's why I said that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6583.0,6588.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6588.0,6589.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: So when you were in high school, did you ever make it back over towards Cabbagetown?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6589.0,6594.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Did I ever come back over here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6594.0,6596.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: Yeah, you-\r\n\r\nIVAN: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6596.0,6597.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: Yeah, you're like in Lakewood Heights?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6597.0,6598.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah, Lakewood. Yeah, we would come over here a lot. Yeah, just ride through, look around, you know. Go through the underpass, you know. Then my sister lived in Little Five Points so we'd go over there a lot, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6598.0,6614.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: What was it- was Atlanta like- was that the mid to late 50s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6614.0,6619.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Was it what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6619.0,6620.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: It was like the 50s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6620.0,6622.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6622.0,6623.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: What was Atlanta like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6623.0,6624.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Atlanta was fantastic city. It still is today but it really was a fantastic city back then. It's uh- you know I remember Atlanta all the way back and it- it's always been a nice city. And I think Atlanta's going to be one of the biggest cities in the world. Because I think we got everything here that all the northern cities would like to have and all the western cities would like to have. I think that- people, I just think that we need more roads but I don't know how they're gonna do that. Maybe everybody will ride electric bicycles and cars and things in another ten, twenty years. That's the only thing that's gonna save us because you're not going to be able to put double the cars on the road again, like, it ain't gonna work, you know. But I think Atlanta is a fabulous- weather, fabulous city, it's going to be great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6624.0,6688.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah, we'll have flying cars, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6688.0,6691.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah, yeah. It's a great city. Everybody that moves here don't want to move back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6691.0,6702.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Right, John?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6702.0,6704.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: Yeah, I got stuck. I can't leave.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6704.0,6708.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Florida.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6708.0,6709.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Florida? Yeah, yeah. Well, I love Florida, everybody's moving to Florida now. Cause of taxes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6709.0,6714.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: Yeah, my dad moved down there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6714.0,6716.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Where'd you live?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6716.0,6718.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: Uh, I grew up there and my parents worked together but now he moved down to Fort Myers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6718.0,6723.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Fort Myers, nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6723.0,6725.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: I'm from Tampa Bay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6725.0,6726.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah, nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6726.0,6731.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Well, that's about all I know about Cabbagetown.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6731.0,6735.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: [LAUGHS] Nothing else? No, that's fantastic, thank you. Unless anybody else has anything to say, I'm just so appreciative that you came all this way to do this. Course you came for the barbecue, this is just a side trip. [LAUGHS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6735.0,6751.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Alright.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6751.0,6752.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah, I wouldn't mind living over here. Cabbagetown, it's nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6752.0,6756.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Come on back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6756.0,6757.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: I said I wouldn't mind living over here- no I can't come back, no. Too expensive now. I stopped up and asked that girl, that house we used to live in, she said it sells for seven hundred thousand dollars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6757.0,6771.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah, when I bought, uh, I actually live in the Mill in one of those lofts there. And- but when I bought it, it was a third of what they go for now. I couldn't buy it now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6771.0,6781.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6781.0,6782.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: There's no way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6782.0,6783.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Unbelievable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6783.0,6784.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: And I don't want to sell it, it's my home, you know. So now I just have to pay the property tax. [LAUGHS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6784.0,6788.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Well, if you sold it, you'd have to buy something the same price, you'd have a hard time finding [UNINTELLIGIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6788.0,6792.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: No, I'd have to leave. I'd have to- I don't know, a lot of people are heading down towards the airport and, you know, Hayville and things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6792.0,6799.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yeah, that's the only place you can get anything on the west side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6799.0,6803.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah, west or south.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6803.0,6805.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: West or south, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6805.0,6809.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: We have a lot of people leaving Cabbagetown right now, simply because they can't afford it. People who got here ten, fifteen, twenty years ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6809.0,6816.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Taxes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6816.0,6817.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Taxes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6817.0,6818.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: Oh, no. Are their taxes going way up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6818.0,6821.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah.\r\n\r\nSUSAN: Is that why-?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6821.0,6822.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: In 2016, the city suddenly dropped a big tax bomb on everybody and it caused a big brouhaha and, uh, they froze it for a little while but that was only temporary so now- But just about everybody I know has gone to appeal? I've done that, you know, you have to. You have to go appeal the taxes and they drop it down a little bit and they freeze that for three years? Is that right? I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6822.0,6848.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: Once you appeal, no matter if you win or lose, it's frozen after [UNINTELLIGIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6848.0,6852.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: I heard one year, they'll lower them and then they come back the next year and double them. They'll get their money back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6852.0,6857.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: Yeah, or they lower the rate but raise the ad valorem or the- uh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6857.0,6862.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Some people-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6862.0,6863.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN: [UNINTELLIGIBLE]-rate, you know, but they can raise it two different ways.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6863.0,6866.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Well, that's one way- I mean, one way, unfortunately, a lot of locals here in Cabbagetown got displaced. Back in, starting around the late 80s, in the 90s, was taxes. It's the silent killer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6866.0,6883.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Yes, it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6883.0,6885.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: So, you know, we're dealing with a lot of similar issues but, uh, love the place so we're going to keep fighting for it. Well, thank you. What are y'all going to now? Y'all have any plans?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6885.0,6898.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: Driving home. [LAUGHS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6898.0,6901.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Go to Canton. \r\n\r\nSUSAN: Hope to not get stuck in traffic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6901.0,6904.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: They live- they live in Canton.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6904.0,6905.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: Yeah, we live in Cherokee County so...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6905.0,6908.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Well, boys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6908.0,6910.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: It's packed all the way out there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6910.0,6912.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah. You know, and that's- I'm sorry, that's kind of part of the whole narrative about the cotton mill being here and cotton being in Georgia and the reason why Canton is named Canton. You know why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6912.0,6925.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: Something about- something about China.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6925.0,6930.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Canton, China.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6930.0,6931.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: The Silk Trade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6931.0,6933.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: Yeah, that's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6933.0,6934.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: In fact, people thought silk was going to be a big commodity here so the inital crop was supposed to be silk. And uh-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6934.0,6943.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: Here at the mill?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6943.0,6944.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: No, not this mill. This mill was always a cotton mill. But eventually, like even Savannah originally was founded thinking there was going to be a silk trade and they they realized that silk just wasn't going to hack it. So they started moving towards cotton which did well here. But that silk was- I mean, that's why you have a number of cities with these Chinese names to them. It's because it's silk. Anyway, just a little- [LAUGHS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6944.0,6970.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SUSAN: Yeah, I read that. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6970.0,6974.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Well, they did to the Canton cotton mill what they did to this one, I don't know if they- I don't think it's as expensive as this one. They made condos out of the Canton cotton mill.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6974.0,6983.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Yeah, they've done that with a lot of the old mills, the schools, like you said. Roosevelt High was a popular school here too. So we know a lot of originals who went to Roosevelt. Well, Roosevelt is now apartments, lofts so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6983.0,6997.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Roosevelt was boy's high, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=6997.0,7000.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: At some point, it went co-ed. I'm not exactly sure when but I- there were some women I know who went there but I don't know when it went co-ed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=7000.0,7010.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IVAN: Well good, y'all doing a good job. I appreciate y'all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=7010.0,7013.0"},{"id":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969/transcript/32853/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JACOB: Thank you. \r\n\r\n\r\nFIN","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thepatchworks.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1426/collection_resources/39501/file/110969#t=7013.0,3416.0"}]}]}]}